relayed from Martha Berry! cover sketch! by CJ | Feb 14, 2011 | Journal | 29 comments WAY OFF TOPIC! I checked Amazon this morning and found a cover painting for DESTROYER! http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0756406544/ref=s9_simh_gw_p14_d0_i1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=0WVV3Y5F01ZYNZGC657D&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938631&pf_rd_i=507846 29 Comments Newer Comments → chondrite on February 14, 2011 at 4:09 pm I fink you mean BETRAYER, unless some wires really got crossed… Log in to Reply sweetbo on February 14, 2011 at 4:37 pm I found a bigger, cleaner version here. Click the picture to make it bigger. Log in to Reply CJ on February 15, 2011 at 7:56 am A more evolved version of the picture: but the plot sketch is wrong! Log in to Reply BlueCatShip on February 14, 2011 at 5:52 pm Okie-dokie, boss-lady, cap’n-ma’am. Pre-ordered. Nice discount price, too. I like the cover a lot, seeing it actual size will be sweet. Dern, wonder if the publ. will have it in ebook format too…looking…will report back if high-firmative. Log in to Reply BlueCatShip on February 14, 2011 at 7:31 pm Amazon is not showing an ebook format yet for Betrayer. But they might, since it’s a new/current publication. They show the hb for pre-order (obviously). Amazon has added Alternate Realities and At The Edge Of Space and Deliverer to CJ’s available ebooks for Kindle. Already avail. were Hammerfall and Forge of Heaven and the Fortress series, plus Deliverer from the Foreigner series. — This looks like Penguin and/or DAW are gradually responding to get their catalogues from print to ebooks, or they are speeding up when readers punch that “I’d like to read this book on Kindle” button. …And for new visitors, don’t forget to visit Closed-Circle.net , for CJ’s and Jane’s and Lynn’s books, new and out-of-print books. Log in to Reply ready4more on February 14, 2011 at 8:20 pm The picture on Amazon and the picture Sweetbo linked to are different. On one Bren is up on one knee and firing, on the other Bren is sitting back as if he just got knocked back on his assets. OOOOhhhh! OWWWWW Log in to Reply AbigailM on February 14, 2011 at 8:31 pm The action appears to have moved to the canyonlands of southern Utah – what part of the planet is that? Down in the southern provinces? And we had a discussion a while ago about how the paidhi’s white hair-ribbon has somehow morphed into all-white clothes for him – what Kerowyn in the Heralds of Valdemar refers to as “oh-shoot-me-now Whites!” It does, of course, make a nice artistic composition with all those Atevi in unadorned assassin black. Canonical accuracy or not, it’s a great painting which ought to sell books. Yay! Log in to Reply purplejulian on February 14, 2011 at 10:49 pm yes, I noticed the difference, the one with Bren sitting back is much more interesting! new style/new illustrator. a bit more rugged. like it a lot. yes, will there be an ebook? how much work is it for a publisher to produce an ebook. if the galleys are in pdf it shouldn’t be too much to do, surely? Log in to Reply Busifer on February 15, 2011 at 3:39 am I certainly like the second one better so I hope that’s what my pre-ordered copy will sport, once it show up 😉 Log in to Reply Charles_Smyth on February 15, 2011 at 7:12 am Not bad. But it looks like the publisher was being overly, ‘fiscally conservative’ 🙂 to the point that the amount of paint applied to poor, little Bren, gives the impression that the Atevi are on growth hormones. Has Michael Whelan broken his hand again? Log in to Reply CJ on February 15, 2011 at 7:54 am Michael hasn’t been doing the covers in a while. What the first one is, I suspect, is a paint-sketch, ie, a painter’s rough, showing color and relative position; painters doing a cover routinely turn in 4-5 of these of various sort, and my guess is they needed some graphic to use until the actual cover got in. The picture is accurate, in locale: I won’t tell you where those rocks are. Log in to Reply Ragi-at-heart on February 17, 2011 at 9:20 pm I think we can safely rule out the kyo homeworld. Log in to Reply purplejulian on February 15, 2011 at 8:09 am do you give them any input on the cover – any suggested scene and the details of how it should look? (I have one chanur paperback produced for the UK market which I am sure you can’t have had anything to do with; characters apparently walking around on the outside (ie in space) of a docking area with no protection!) Log in to Reply Charles_Smyth on February 15, 2011 at 9:57 am Okay… I’ll take it to be a ‘first draft’. Nothing that can’t be rescaled, in Photoshop 🙂 You’ll enjoy the following. Play from 1:15 to 3:29 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1OoV70rSik&feature=related Log in to Reply Harulkin on February 15, 2011 at 12:35 pm I’ll take this opportunity to voice one concern I cannot seem to come to terms with not just in the Foreigner series, but with series in general: I do not like how some publishers seem to go the extra mile in confusing their customers, i. e. me, the reader, about what exactly they are about to purchase. I realize it may be important to not make abundantly clear one is about to buy #4 in a series of 7 if one is standing in front of a shelf, not realizing #1 and #2 are out of print, and #6 and #7 are not yet in print. It may make a curious browser buy it just anyway and actually enjoy the book, and end up hunting for the prequels one has missed so far, and in fact support a decision to get #6 and #7 in print at all. But if the original author herself cannot get the titles straight then something may be amiss. I’ve tried to keep track of the Foreigner series by story arcs, by Wikipedia, by adding my own comments on the Amazon wish list and by little tables now helpfully provided in the newer books. To no avail. As far as I can tell, I’ve missed buying Pretender (quick: What number is that? Start or end of which trilogy?) and am now stuck having to reorder that. It doesn’t help I accidentally lost one of the books on a train, either. Curse me. I’ll now have to find out what title the one has where Bren takes Cajeiri up on the station. By all means, enjoy confusing everyone by naming the singular riding beast “Mecheita” and the plural “Mechieta”, but at some point I’d be really, really glad if I could get a little help with getting my reading order straight, and let me purchase another of your fabulous Omnibuses. One reasonable price for all 13 in a properly labelled order would be well-received here if only so I don’t end up reading the end of the fourth story arc before its start by accident. Thank you very much, and maybe if the Merlot will allow me to retrace those steps, I’ll go fix my Avatar now. Log in to Reply CJ on February 15, 2011 at 3:29 pm I’ll tell you why they don’t put the numbers on: the distributors think it discourages people from buying, and they don’t want them. And unfortunately the distributors dictate what goes: the publishers no longer do. We do have, up in the Foreigner Spoiler thread (above) a list of the titles in order. I hope it’ll help you—and I’m sure our readers can tell you which one your missing book is. I get confused, myself. Log in to Reply Ragi-at-heart on February 17, 2011 at 10:10 pm I blame what I like to refer to as the “Wheel of Crack” for starting that whole trend. And may I applaud you, my dear author for NOT going Tolkien-esque with more characters than any sane person can keep track of on two hands? Log in to Reply Sabina on February 15, 2011 at 1:06 pm I agree with you, the data sets especially on the online retailers are confusing and inconsistent in naming. And just for the heck of it. Without looking. Pretender (book 10), start of the current trilogy which will be finished with Betrayer (12) this year. Middle book is Deceiver (11). Taking Cajeiri up to the station is Destroyer (book 5) Lets see if I get the order correct without looking up (literally, the shelf is on the wall in front of me): Foreigner Invader Inheritor Precursor Destroyer Explorer Ugh, can’t remember this trilogy (7-9), but it contains Conspirator Pretender Deceiver Betrayer Intruder (13) ____________ Awwh, shuggs, I got them wrong, the later ones aren’t my strength. So correct order is: Foreigner (1) Invader (2) Inheritor (3) Precursor (4) Defender (5) (both start with a “D” and Cajeiri still gets up to the station *shrug*) Explorer (6) Destroyer (7) Pretender (8) Deliverer (9) Conspirator (10) Deceiver (11) Betrayer (12) Intruder (13) Log in to Reply sweetbo on February 15, 2011 at 3:06 pm I always put them in the correct order in the book store when I check up on the state of things. Lifelong habit I’m afraid. The only section I don’t mess with is the Pratchett section. I’m not daring enough to put those in any kind of order. It’s why I hate going into Walmart. They are so disorganized it makes me want to curl up in the corner and cry. I was a stock boy in a past life. Grapes in the shoe section nearly put me over the edge. These days people can just check on their smart phones to instantly find out stuff like that. Or do like me and call my sister up and make her look it up online while I am stand in the store. I’m really bad with manga and those are usually prominently numbered. There can be month between releases and I guess that’s just enough time to confuse me on if I need the next issue or not. Log in to Reply purplejulian on February 15, 2011 at 1:42 pm I always go back to CJ’s website to work out which book is which! Log in to Reply tulrose on February 15, 2011 at 4:12 pm I’ve got a list on my computer. Log in to Reply warriorofworry on February 15, 2011 at 9:44 pm I don’t even *try* to keep track. I remember plot points, but titles take a bit more work. I confess that as far as our lovely hostess goes, I just buy whatever gets printed. I check Locus’s online list of upcoming books and various blogs for everyone else. And I originally joined librarything to keep from buying the same books in a series over and over. I can check it on my phonething. Log in to Reply joekc6nlx on February 16, 2011 at 2:31 am I have the entire series, in order, on the bookshelf on the opposite wall from my computer desk. If I need to refer, I just turn around and look, maybe pull the book down, and find the reference I’m looking for. Of course, the rest of my house is nowhere near as organized Even the silverware is mixed in the tray. Let’s not even bring up the condition of the computer desk. I believe you have used “mechieta” as the singular and “mechieti” as the plural and have seen no instances where that has been changed. I have noticed small discrepancies in names, such as Tabini’s murdered majordomo Eidi, whose name was “changed” to “Edo” in Destroyer. With all of the manuscripts you have, and all of the various formats they were created, it’s difficult at best to keep names straight. I recall in your blog on http://www.cherryh.com that you were sincerely grateful to the folks at “Shejidan” for helping keep thing straight. After many months of not working on a particular arc, the gears sometimes need to be lubricated. I wonder how many typographical errors that I find in the books are due to the publisher. I know that spellchecking software isn’t the most reliable, but I find normal English words that are misspelled or have letters transposed. A spellchecker should catch those and any “artificial” words or names (such as “Atevi”) would be ignored once the software was told to ignore it. Log in to Reply BlueCatShip on February 16, 2011 at 1:22 pm :O More good news! Amazon now has Pretender in Kindle ebook formart. So Destroyer, Pretender, and Deliverer are all now available there. Destroyer and Pretender have both come available within the last week or two. This could mean the others are being prepped. I would expect they’d prep the most recent before the least recent, but so far, it looks as though they are getting them out in random order as they get to them. Naturally, I requested a few other of CJ’s titles, in hopes that Amazon and the publishers will notice the feedback and respond. 😉 But when I went through, I saw that, for example, the paperback price for Finity’s End has gone up to (eek) nearly $25 before tax. Yikes. I know it’s a long-form paperback, and average-length pb are going for $8 to $10, but it is a clear example of why more people are going toward ereader gadgets and ebooks. I really am enjoying my new Kindle. I miss the smell and feel of a real book, but I don’t miss the bulk or the aggravation if a pb gets beaten up in transport as I go. I do hope future Kindles (and the e-ink/e-paper they use) will have better black and white contrast, and eventually color. I keep trying to tap the dang screen, though, LOL. Still, what a nice device, and I can increase the font-size to suit me better. Again, yay about Pretender. Log in to Reply CJ on February 16, 2011 at 1:33 pm DOn’t dare pay that for Finity’s End: I’ll do that one as an e-book one of these days. Log in to Reply purplejulian on February 16, 2011 at 2:06 pm that would be very cool, I would love to have it for my kindle! and yay for Bren and co appearing as ebooks Log in to Reply Ragi-at-heart on February 17, 2011 at 10:14 pm I’d love to see more of your books in e-format. Port-Eternity, Voyager in Night – those were two that I checked out of the library when I first delved into your books – you must let us know when you’ll be doing an e-book format, unless you’d prefer us to purchase the omnibus? Log in to Reply BlueCatShip on February 16, 2011 at 5:22 pm Heh, I already have 2 copies of Finity’s End in pb. I was clicking the “I’d like to read this book on Kindle.” link. I figure some positive feedback (and putting a certain author or two’s name) in front of some publishing people’s eyeballs can’t hurt. Of course, if the electronic publication rights revert to you, CJ, that’s great. It still means someone somewhere reads interest in your books. How much benefit to you there is in Closed Circle publishing versus the big boys and girls publishing and marketing, I’m not sure. I would think CC gives y’all more direct profits, a larger share. Log in to Reply Newer Comments → Submit a Comment Cancel replyYou must be logged in to post a comment.