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Book Discussion: all books: spoiler alert in effect…

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69 comments to Book Discussion: all books: spoiler alert in effect…

  • Very cool on their own. Neat stuff, very good manga art.

  • Xheralt

    I’ve been following Fred’s webcomic for years, but this is extra-cool.

  • As a general question, has there been a discussion thread for “Serpent’s Reach”? I’m about 3/5 of the way through it, and just wondering…..
    I will admit, it’s a bit of a struggle, because I’m still trying to figure out background material. I’m presuming that more will become clear as I progress to the end…….

  • Just in case you run out of ideas for the Foreigner series, I would really love to read about the negotiations leading to Ilisidi’s marriage to the aiji of the west, her journey to Shejidan and the early years leading up to Valasi’s birth. When and how did she acquire Cenedi?

  • CJ

    Oh, that’s an interesting question.

    • I have wondered over the years: What did Ilisidi or her clan gain from allying herself/itself so closely to the Ragi? From hints you’ve dropped through out the series, Ilisidi’s East prefers to remain aloof from the aishiditat. Her cousin made that perfectly clear a few books back. There must have been some overriding interest that forced Ilisidi or the then head of her clan to take such a drastic step at a time when the only route between Shejidan and Malguri was a seldom used train.

      You and Ilisidi’s cousin have also made it clear that members of the Assassin’s Guild are not welcome in the East so Cenedi must have come into Ilisidi’s service after her arrival in the West. Did she choose him? Did the head of her clan choose him? Did her husband assign him to her, then he acquired manch’i to her? And how did Ilisidi, the ultimate Easterner, adjust to being surrounded by the Assassin’s Guild? It’s a very interesting relationship.

    • tulrose

      I’ll second the previous suggestion.

  • CJ

    The Eastern lords are highly independent and have resisted unification. Ilisidi’s father and Ilisidi herself have seen connection to the aiji in Shejidan and the guilds, particularly the Assassins, as a way to seize power over the other Eastern lords, and accomplish something more than perpetuation of poverty, lordly privilege, and regional customs.

    • paul

      Centralization of power may give more resources for “big projects”, but it also makes the qualities of the centralized leader that much more consequential. (Consider modern day Africa for example. Nationalism and tribalism don’t blend so well.) Heriditary monarchies always have this problem. Some cultures have worked around that by “adopting” more capable leaders, e.g. Hideyoshi’s “adoption” by the Toyotomi.

  • CJ

    Definitely. Ilisidi’s gestures toward her own cousin and her moves with the Calrunaidi are part of her campaign:not to mention her patronage of businesses at the port she hopes to establish. She married her way to power. She’s forming associations left and right inside the East.

  • “Ilisidi‚Äôs father and Ilisidi herself have seen connection to the aiji in Shejidan and the guilds, particularly the Assassins, as a way to seize power over the other Eastern lords, and accomplish something more than perpetuation of poverty, lordly privilege, and regional customs.”

    Thank you. I hadn’t looked at it from that angle. I had more or less assumed (and we all know what that word means) that Ilisidi’s clan was the most powerful clan in the East.

    But I still want to know where Cenedi came from.

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